-A Picture of Revival?

Here’s a story about a baptismal service where 562 were baptized. It was the culmination of a 5 week series that saw over 800 come to Christ. You may not appreciated some of the tailgate party part of the event, but celebration certainly is appropriate and it sure got me thinking!

This event may not be revival, but when I saw the photo of the three temporary fonts set up in the parking lot, the Holy Spirit spoke to me about revival and of what it might be like when it does come. What if all of a sudden hundreds or thousands of folks wanted to be baptized at your church, what would you do?

I have been told by many who were there that during the midst of the Jesus People Revival in Southern California, Chuck Smith and his pastors baptized thousands at the beach. Most Calvary Chapels and Vineyard churches in this area still occasionally have some baptismal services at the beach, at least during the summer.

I look for the day when hundreds and even thousands of churches across America have their parking lots filled with people waiting to be baptized and publicly proclaim their commitment to Christ. That would be a picture of revival!

-Some Revival Thoughts: A Quote from John Wimber

I found this quote from my old pastor John Wimber:

We need to be aware that in times of great blessing, there is also the potential for great testing and trial. This is not the time for ‘business as usual’: This is the time to get deep into prayer and God’s Word, and deal with those cracks and holes in our spiritual lives, to get our lives in order – because with great blessing goes great pressure.

Some of the activity that is going on is quite extreme, and it’s incredibly easy in these times to become so enamored of some aspect of the outflow of God, that in trying to protect or champion it, you will find yourself out of line with orthodoxy. Down through the history of the church many wonderful things have happened that have produced much fruit. But certain aspects of these things have led people to get out of line with Scripture and the church, simply because of the excitement of the movement and the intensity of the phenomena, often resulting in the birth of a cult.

As leaders we need to remain congruent with orthodoxy and orthopraxy, to maintain our focus on the ‘main and the plain’ in Scripture.

Response:

This is really good counsel for all of us, particularly in times of revival or during special moves of God. We can get so caught up in what going on that we forget and actually ignore the basics. Pastor Stephen Winters (SLW) recently posted about some of the unwanted ‘side-effects’ of revival. I have been chewing on some of his comments for a couple of weeks now. His observations are well taken. I believe that we need to remember the counsel of my old pastor John Wimber and stick to the basics especially in times of extraordinary spiritual blessing when we start to think that we are ‘bullet proof’.

‘Business as usual’ is not adequate during times of great outpouring. Exceptional responses are called for. We need to listen and respond to the Holy Spirit, our feet need to be firmly placed upon the rock of our salvation (Jesus Christ), and we need to stand up completely balanced by the basics of our faith (especially prayer and Scripture).

-Fulton Street Revival: 150 Year Anniversary

Today (Sunday) marks the 150 year anniversary of the beginning of the Fulton Street Revival, one of the greatest ‘unreported’ revivals of all time. It started with a few laymen meeting together for prayer on Wednesday 23, 1857 and grew until over 50,000 in New York city were pausing at noon to pray everyday. It spread across the entire country and in a year and a half over a million people were converted to Jesus Christ.

This was not a movement with major preachers or any prominent leaders, but was started and fed by laymen and women hungry for greater daily relationship with God, and was called “the Layman’s Revival” by some.
Services are planned in New York to commemorate the Revival with a hope that revival will come once more to our land.

-A Baptist Vision of Revival?

We have been posting about revival for some time on this blog, I thought you might be interested in reading a Baptist vision of revival.I found this article on the Baptist Press. Here, Southern Baptist Convention President Frank Page calls for continued prayers for Revival and then gives a glimpse of what he believes revival would look like. Page sees at least three key elements of revival “when the Holy Spirit Comes”:

— A love for God’s Word.

— A focus on evangelism.

— A unified focus.

Response:

Actually Rev. Page’s comments are quite good and I do agree that those three elements will be part of any revival. However, I believe that a coming revival will bring us closer to God in a more personal way. Also, I look forward to much more “when the Holy Spirit comes” in power.

Rather than write more about my own expectations, I would like to hear from some of you. What do you look forward too and what is your vision of revival?

-So Many American Mega Churches Have Adopted the ‘Business Model’?

The are so many mega churches in America that remind me of several of the corporations that I have worked for over the years. The Pastor is the CEO and uses the corporate jet and lives in the executive neighborhood with the proverbial house on the hill designed for the obligatory parties and entertainment that goes along with position and power. I know this sounds harsh but it is all too prevalent in some Christian circles.

Here is a fine article by J. Lee Grady (‘Fire In My Bones’-Charisma Mag. @ 08-17-07) that points out the struggles between this model and the call for relational ministry. Grady observes:

“Perhaps we have allowed the sophisticated culture of the business world to invade Gods house. After all, many of our churches have evolved into mega-corporations with our own CEOs, controllers, administrators, tax codes, dress codes, office hours and private jets and even bodyguards! In such a stuffy atmosphere, genuine love can turn lukewarm.”

Comments: Come Holy Spirit and shake all of the American churches and bring your true revival, and bring your direction and order to your church in America. In Jesus name, Amen.

-My One Late Great Contact with the ‘Jesus People’ Revival

As I recall, it was sometime in 1970 while I was in seminary that I came across a couple of hippies preaching. They were teaching that Jesus was coming back any day for his church, the Anti-Christ was going to be ruling in Europe soon and Russia was going to attack Israel but the USA would do nothing. It didn’t matter what any of us did, the whole world was just going to get worse, but all the faithful were going to be ‘Raptured’ away before the coming nuclear World War and before God brought universal judgment, so you better join with Jesus now. Pretty radical at the time.

I was not impressed. I had a different eschatological view and pretty much ‘knew it all’ like any other seminarian. These ‘unwashed’ guys came from some little church at the beach (Costa Mesa, California) called ‘Calvary Chapel’. This would be my only contact with the ‘Jesus People’ at the time, a move of God which would see more that 750,000 people to Christ in the early 70’s and started the Calvary Chapel Fellowship of Churches, eventually the Vineyard Movement, and many others.

Contemporary Christian music and worship also got its start during this move, so many thousands of churches across America and in the Western world have actually been affected by this little California Revival.

Later, since my involvement with the Vineyard Movement starting in 1986, I have talked to many pastors and members about their recollection and participation in this move. My long time pastor/friend Ed Piorek was a surfer who came to Christ and started a Calvary Chapel in San Clemente, which later after several moves became the Vineyard church I am part of. But that is another story.

One of my greatest disappointments now is that I didn’t investigate this revival which was less than 50 miles away. However, it might as well have been a thousand if you are a self assured smart aleck denominationally bound seminary student that knows better.

I was reminded of the ‘Jesus People Move’ with the coming of the 3 day Harvest Crusade at Anaheim Stadium this weekend and the Keynote preaching of Greg Laurie, supported by Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel and many other churches in Southern California. Pastor Laurie got his start during the early days of the revival.

8/6/07 Update: The Harvest Crusades were started 18 years ago in order to reach the ‘next generation’. Over 102,000 attended the three day crusade this year (Aug.3-5,2007) with over 9,500 making decisions for Christ.

-Celebrity Preachers? -We Still Have A Long Way to Go In America

The latest Fire In My Bones article ( Fri. July 27, 2007) from J. Lee Grady is a must read: “The Deadly Virus of Celebrity Christianity”:

Paul and Barnabas and later Silas use to walk from town to town and were known to even work occasionally to support themselves. Jail was more often than not their reward for preaching in their ‘marketplace’ conferences. Now in 21th century USA, those who consider themselves ‘more than Apostles’ demand worship, 5 star hotels, luxury cars to drive, and manicurists?

That the Charismatic/Pentecostal community puts up with such as these is more than I can bear. It is almost enough to make me wish that I was a cessassionist. Where are all the humble servants of the Lord? How long will the Lord suffer such idiocy in his name? I believe that judgment is on the way for such as these. Hear me now! Along with revival comes judgment for all unfaithful servants.

J. Lee Grady ends his article with the following:

New Testament Christianity is humble, selfless and authentic. And those who carry the truth don’t preach for selfish gain or to meet an emotional need for attention. May God help us root out the false apostles and false teachers who are making the American church sick with their man-centered, money-focused heresies.

May the Lord bring revival to this land and save his church from all the egotistical man-centered so-called ministers. Lord, let all the humble servants that you have prepared to finally rise to the top and have their day in the sun.

-What about Toronto and Brownsville?

What about Toronto and Brownsville? Were they moves of God or deceptions of the enemy? I would like to hear from some of you who actually experienced these moves and were touched by them in some way. I see so much negative junk on the internet.

John and Carol Arnott brought a team from Toronto to our congregation (Mission Viejo Vineyard) for a conference early in the move because he believed that our founding pastor Ed Piorek helped to kick off the beginning of the revival with a conference on ‘The Father’s Love’. 13 years later, I can still see the positive effects of that weekend on the lives of many that I know.

What did I personally get out of the Toronto move? Greater intimacy with God as a Father who really does love me and wants only the best. I knew all that theologically in my head, but it really makes a difference to really experience it and believe it. Also, even though I was getting on in years, the Lord was not done with me in spite of all the mistakes I had made in the past. He was specifically calling me to stick around as a ‘Caleb’ to help the next generation. To help rise up, train, and support a vast army of young people that are called to bring a major world harvest.

When I read about these moves on the internet, all I read about is all the negative junk that the enemy sowed. What the enemy did has overtaken and ended up characterizing these moves in the minds of so many who weren’t even there.

What about some of you who were there or were touched by these moves in some way? I want to hear from you. I would particularly like to hear from some of you who were touched by the Brownsville revival since I know so little about it. I have observed the changes that took place in many that attended the services at Toronto including Heidi and Roland Baker who were somewhat discouraged when they when but came away with a new anointing that has resulted in thousands of churches and hundreds of thousands of converts in Africa—still counting.

-The Prophetic Movement?

Time and again I see references to ‘The Prophetic Movement’ like it is some kind of unified quasi- church organization of some sort. What is it anyway and where can I find it? Then I see a whole lot of folks and ministries lumped together as somehow being representative of this movement and all sorts of crazy stuff which is suppose to be part of it, like angel feathers and gold dust and even miraculous gold teeth.

Then I read that it all started at a Vineyard conference when John Wimber introduced Paul Cain and let him take over. (However a prophetic movement had been going for years among some Pentecostal churches) I have read all sorts of crazy stuff about what happened at those meetings. Well guess what- I was there!

In February 1989, I was one of over 5,000 attending a “Spiritual Warfare Conference” with a number of major speakers planned. The first night John Wimber took the stand and announced that he believed that the Lord had inspired him to change the agenda and he introduced Paul Cain who spoke that first night and every night thereafter.

About five minutes into his first talk, Paul said something that convicted me personally and the Holy Spirit came upon me and I landed on my face and knees for a while, which was different and I have never been the same since. All I know, what happened to me that night was a sovereign work and I know a lot of other folks that were truly blessed at that conference. Yet when I read what the critics say about it, I wonder if it was the same conference. But I was actually there and the critics weren’t.

Later that year, I was there at the ‘Prophecy Conference’ when all the Kansas City folks were introduced including a strange guy called Bob Jones. Guess what, I was blessed at that conference also.

I guess that I have been part of ‘The Prophetic Movement’ for over 18 years and didn’t even know it. Some of the folks that are said to be part of it, I do know and have had close relationships with. Others I don’t know and don’t even agree with, but we are all part of some movement together? Some have fallen away and changed over the years, but they’re still part of the movement too?

If it is about gold dust, angel feathers, gold fillings and guys and gals with ‘Prophet’ in front of their names passing the collection plate and acting like rock stars, then count me out. If it is about re-establishing and implementing a true prophetic calling and gifting in the church, then count me in, I am part of that lower case ‘p’ prophetic movement.

-Go Into All The World -Even Europe?

Here is an interesting article about thousands of missionaries from the third world taking the gospel back to Europe. The domestic denominational churches of Europe are basically dead and empty on Sundays and have been for some time. The foreign missionaries are reaching out to the Europeans in new and fresh ways:

Churches in countries such as Nigeria, Ghana, South Korea and the Philippines have sent thousands of missionaries to Europe to set up churches in homes, office buildings and storefronts. Officials from the Redeemed Christian Church of God, a Pentecostal church based in Nigeria, said they have 250 churches in Britain now and plan to create 100 more this year. Britain’s largest church, run by a Nigerian pastor in London, attracts up to 12,000 people over three services every Sunday.
The trend is vivid in Denmark, where charismatic preachers from Africa, Sri Lanka, Vietnam, India, Iran and Latin America have set up vibrant Protestant and Catholic churches.

What a fascinating development. Thousands of missionaries from different countries and churches? Something like this can only happen if it is a genuine move of God. I have read at least a dozen articles recently which claim that Europe is going to be Muslim in 20 years. Maybe God has a different plan?